Wednesday, May 28, 2008

PCOS Ovulation Induction

When I was an Intern in Ob Gyn at Stanford, my friend and Senior Resident Jan Rydfors shared with me a helpful saying: “Like treats like.” He was referring to patients with polycystic ovarian syndrome (PCOS) and how to induce them to ovulate. He explained to me that since PCOS was a hormonal problem, its treatment should be with hormones (not surgery).

Surgery for patients with PCOS was popular for many years and prior to the introduction of clomiphene, one could indeed help women with PCOS by performing bilateral ovarian wedge resection. My father, a general surgeon, who trained when gynecology was still part of general surgery, performed many of these procedures and some of the patients did indeed begin to cycle normally and conceived. Unfortunately, the surgery sometimes caused tubal damage and pelvic adhesions, trading one reproductive problem for another. Surgeons also have a helpful saying: “A chance to cut is a chance to cure.” Doctors in non-surgical specialties have some pithy quips about surgeons, such as orthopedic surgeons are “big as a tree and half as smart.”

Although laparoscopic ovarian drilling has emerged as the modern form of ovarian wedge resection, few patients are forced to resort to this approach as our understanding of PCOS has improved. About 90% of patients will ovulate on metformin or metformin and clomiphene in combination. The remaining 10% usually respond to injectible fertility drugs but here one has to be careful about OHSS and multiples. So here is today’s Question of the Day from the book that my Mother thinks all women of reproductive age need to read: 100 Questions and Answers about Infertility.

25. I have PCOS and am still not having normal cycles with metformin. What comes next?


Patients who fail to respond to metformin may require ovulation induction with either clomiphene citrate (Clomid) or injectable fertility medications (gonadotropins). Clomid has been an FDA-approved treatment for anovulation since the late 1960s. This anti-estrogen has been used successfully in millions of women with few complications.

Clomid binds to estrogen receptors in the brain, causing the pituitary gland to resume normal release of FSH, and thereby inducing follicles to grow and ultimately release an egg. Patients should take the lowest effective dose of Clomid needed to induce ovulation. With increasing doses, the anti-estrogen side effects can reduce fertility by altering the cervical mucus and leading to a thinner endometrial lining. Many physicians initially prescribe a dose of 50 mg of Clomid to be taken on cycle days 5 to 9. The physician may perform ultrasound monitoring after day 12. Most patients will ovulate around day 17. If no dominant follicle emerges by this day, then an increased dose of 100 mg should be used in the next cycle. A dose of 150 mg is rarely prescribed, because the vast majority of Clomid-responsive patients will ovulate while taking the 50- or 100-mg dose.

Women with PCOS who fail to respond to Clomid can be treated with injectable fertility medications. Gonadotropins are prepared either using recombinant DNA technology (Follistim®, Gonal-F®) or by isolating these hormones from the urine of postmenopausal women (Bravelle, Menopur). By following a very-low-dose protocol (37.5 IU as the starting dose), approximately 90% of patients will achieve a single dominant follicle. If the treatment produces multiple follicles, however, the woman’s risk of multiple pregnancy and ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome (OHSS) may lead to cycle cancellation. Almost all of the high-order multiple pregnancies (e.g., sextuplets) born today result from PCOS patients who took gonadotropins and demonstrated an excessive follicular response.

12 comments:

Erika said...

OK, so I have endomitriosis and PCOS. I've known about the endomitirosis for about 7 years now and the PCOS for about 2, I've been on metformin and Birth control for those 2 years. What do I need to be doing now, so that when we decide we want to try again, that we will more likely be successful?

Jeffrey Dach MD said...



PCOS, the Hidden Epidemic

The fundamental problem with PCOS is anovulation and not making progesterone for two weeks every cycle.

This lack of progesterone leads to hormonal imbalance in the ovary, causes the ovary to produce testosterone and leads to the irregular menstrual cycles and infertility. This is aggravated by obesity and insulin resistance.

Progesterone is missing, therefore replacing it makes sense.

To read more, click here:

Understanding PCOS, the Hidden Epidemic by Jeffrey Dach MD

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DrG said...

I don't know Dr. Dach or why he felt it was appropriate for him to comment on this issue on my blog but here is my view...

Actually this is a completely inaccurate assessment of PCOS. If lack of progesterone caused PCOS then any patient with anovulation for ANY reason would have PCOS since they all lack progesterone.

BUT this is simply not the case. Women with significant hypothyroidism or hyperprolactinemia or exercise induced functional hypothalamic amenorrhea do NOT have the same issues as patients with PCOS. Dr Dach has it ass-backwards...it is the insulin resistance that leads to anovulation and all the other issues associated with PCOS.

kelly said...

I am not ovulating, i've been diagnosed with PCOS. I've had all of my hormone levels checked, and my LH is high. I am not insulin resistant (normal fasting glucose level and low insulin level), BMI of about 19-20, not an extreme exerciser. My ob/gyn put me on metformin without knowing any of this (except for the anovulation part), and i ovulated once in 3 months, but had to stop because of the severe stomach effects and dizziness.
How do I get my LH to a normal range? Is there anything natural I can do (i already do yoga)?
Do you put any stock in the "Fertility Diet" including the cessation of caffeine?
We're likely moving to clomid next month (now under care of an RE) Thank you.

DrG said...

Hi Kelly,

Glucophage is fine even in cases where insulin glucose ratio is normal but if you are unable to tolerate the side effects then stopping is fine. I agree with use of clomid. Not much you can do about LH levels. Good luck with RE.

DrG

Anonymous said...

I have pcos. I had the wedge resection when I was 30, conceived at 45 and now at 56 am still having the effects of pcos lately with unusual weight gain, hair growth and brown spots. What can I do? Debbie

DrG said...

I would discuss with your GYN or Medical Endocrinologist. PCOS symptoms should markedly regress with age but insulin resistance will remain and can cause ongoing health issues.

Good luck

DrG

Rachel said...

I have some questions... I am a newer person on clomid, just finished round one, on my 21st day of my cycle. My Progesterone was 1.7 which is either ovulation or luteal phase. I know you can't tell which one, but could someone ovulate 21 days after a period? I have done ovulation predictor kits, butI am still confused. I asked my Dr. but haven't got a response yet. I took a ovulation test today and it was right on with ovulation, this would mean I am on a 38 day cycle. Can this happen? Sorry for the long post, just confused on this whole deal.

DrG said...

Sounds like a 38 day cycle given prog of only 1.7 and positive OPK. If not pregnant you may want to increase dose of CC but I defer to your RE.

Good luck

DrG

Anonymous said...

I will try to be brief and to the point, LOL. I turned 40 in January 2009. I was dx with pco at age 20. I tried off and on for 9 years to get pregnant. I failed clomid alone, did one round of IVF pro bono with one egg, responded well to metrodin with IUI( very well, had 4 same size large follicles!!) A lot was not known of pco then. When I turned 30 I had enough. I went to my ob/gyn instead of the RE and asked for a treatment we could try that was not so big guns and stressful. This is when she said success had been great using metformnin with clomid. I went on 1500 mg of met and 50 mg of clomid. failed. Next month 1500 mg met and 100 clomid. ovulated, no pg. same the next month. Took a resting month. On the next try, we did met at 1500mg and 150mg clomid. Since she was not an RE, she did not want to use an hcg trigger shot. From past experience, I KNEW I would not ovulate without it. So I found some and gave myself a shot of 10,000 i.u. It was a gut feeling. I got pg that time!!! Delivered a healthy boy. Went back on metformin to control pco symptoms. Periods became regular for the first time in my life after that pg. When my son was 10 months old, I got pg with my daughter!

Skip down the road 6 years. Not on met, but my periods have been like clock work since my daughter's birth as well. I am in a new relationship and I suddenly become pg, I was so excited. By now, I am 39 years old. But, I started spotting and not really feeling pg and discovered it was a blighted ovum. I took cytotec for a medical push for the m/c. That was oct 2008. I since am sure I had a chemical pregnancy since then in Jan 09. I have not been able to conceive. I watch my cycle for the egg white mucus and use OPK's. I have a 30-32 day cycle and ovulate around cd 17-19 I am not sure if it is because I just turned 40? It has been just a month since we upped the dose of metformin to 1500 mg. My gp had me at 1000mg. I told him I did not respond to that. So I started it in Feb on cd1. I ended up ovualting earlier this month, on cd14!! But got a positive OPK on cd 19, and started my period on what I thought was only 10 dpo, when my luteal phase is usually 14-15 days. So, I freaked thinking now I am having LPD!!! LOL. But I think I probly ovulated early like I suspected on cd 14 when I had tons of egg white mucus and very heavy ache in ovaries like I get.

Sorry so long. I am desperate to conceive with my new husband. What is taking so long? Do I probly need the clomid? I have also heard about taking DHEA and it working very well. Should I be patient a few more cycles on the 1500 mg of metformin? Should I add DHEA or will the testosterone have a bad effect on the pco? Thank you so much for listening, Holly in california

Anonymous said...

I am 30 year old having pcos from last15 years, i have a baby girl after iui. now would like to conceive naturally, kindly advise

DrG said...

Many variables to consider here. I would review with a reproductive endocrinologist to see if you should take glucophage. Good luck

DrG